Samira is joined by academic and podcaster Chris Sebuliba, the host and producer of Incuriosity Complex – a longform multi-series narrative podcast exploring ideas of neighbourliness.

Incuriosity Complex’s first season is titled ‘Nice Black Aussies’ and aims to unpack the complexities of the African Australian diasporic experience through the lens of the African Music and Cultural Festival that takes place in both Sydney and Melbourne.

“…You have to carry yourself in a way that paints all Black people as immaculate – but white people don’t have that burden, they just do whatever they want to do.”