Dylan Bird speaks with investigative journalist Antony Loewenstein about his new podcast series, The Palestine Laboratory Podcast.

With his two decades of reporting on Israel-Palestine and the bestselling book The Palestine Laboratory: How Israel Exports the Technology of Occupation Around the World, Antony has investigated Israel using occupied Palestinian territories as a testing ground for weapons and surveillance technology.

Antony's new podcast expands on that research, examining the unsettling financial gains for Israeli arms manufacturers and how anti-Palestinian racism fuels a dangerous military mindset. He says: “The reality is that they have made Gaza unliveable, and ultimately they should be held accountable for that.”