Author Jon Ronson joins the Breakfasters crew to discuss his live show Psychopath Night, unpacking the complexities of psychopathy and how society elites use labels to define — and often divide — people.

Reflecting on insights from his award winning book The Psychopath Test, Jon explores how psychopathic traits like narcissism and lack of empathy are not only tolerated but rewarded in leaders, with CEOs being up to four times more likely to be psychopaths than the average person.

He critiques the dangers of overusing terms like "psychopath" and the rise of self-diagnosed trauma, warning against the oversimplification of human behaviour.

In a world where class tensions are masked by identity politics and social media reduces people to heroes or villains, Jon urges us to look beyond the surface to confront deeper systemic issues.

“Stupid people do good things and good people do stupid things and that’s the grey area we live in. However social media establishes where either heroes or sickening villains”.