Judith Lucy opens this interview with the information that she's deeply bored by talking about her new book Turns Out, I'm Fine. Repeated attempts by the Breakfasters to discuss the book are met with the kind of pro level derailment that you might expect from a child who doesn't want to put on their shoes. Despite her best attempts Lucy is finally convinced to discuss her "excruciatingly honest" new work, the life events that inspired it and her artistic practice as a career comedian. As always, Judith Lucy requires a language warning.