In 2016, Arrernte artist Declan Furber Gillick was living back home in Alice Springs working in an Aboriginal legal aid service when Four Corners aired its investigation into Don Dale Youth Detention Centre. This was the basis for his play Bighouse Dreaming. In this interview with the Breakfasters Declan says that 'one of the roles of the true artist and the true poet is to not look away' and it is this unflinching vision along with the 'visceral embodied exchange between human beings in a live space' that has resonated with audiences across multiple seasons of this work.