Host Vanessa Morris speaks to writer and editor Bianca Valentino to discuss her recently published essay in the Griffith Review, Against the Grain: finding the meaning in punk, speaking to her experince growing up within the punk scene, and explroing her spirituality. Vanessa also speaks to co-curators Kimberley Moulton and Kate ten Buuren of the outdoor exhibition at Federation Square, The Blak Infinite during RISING.